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It is generally accepted that lead lined inclined open valleys need to
be supported on substantial timber boards set between the rafters to
support the weight of the lead. However, with GRP valley trough units,
there has been conflicting recommendations regarding installation from
different manufacturers and suppliers. In recent years recommendations
have changed , but there are still some technical loose ends that need
to be resolved.Deflection
GRP is light and rigid and does not require supporting, unlike lead
which cannot support its own weight.
However, the forces acting on the unit are more than
just its self-weight. Inclined valleys are always laid at a shallower
pitch than the rafter pitch of the two adjacent slopes, by approximately
5°. This is the shallowest route from the eaves to the ridge and will
inevitably be used as a safe way to reach the ridge, especially if the
tiles or slates look fragile. While tradesmen on the roof may be
discouraged from walking up the valley, they will still be used as
walkways. Once a roof has been completed it is difficult to determine if
the valley trough is adequately supported. However, once you stand on it
and it deflects, it is too late. The weight of a tradesman standing on a
valley trough spanning between rafters will cause the GRP to deflect
sufficiently to stress-crack the material. Therefore, the construction
needs to be capable of supporting the weight of a man without excess
deflection.
Mortar
Valley trough units, used for interlocking tiles, have a sanding
strip along the edges of the open channel to allow the mortar bedding to
adhere to the surface of the material. In theory this works well.
However, if the valley trough unit deflects due to the point-load of a
tradesman standing on the valley, the mortar will not be able to bend
with the GRP, and will either crack or pull away from the sanded strip.
Neither option is desirable. The only way mortar bedding will remain in
position is for the valley trough to be supported so that there is
little or no deflection.
Battens
At an open valley the tile or slate battens need to terminate short of the
centre-line of the valley. This allows the valley trough to sit in the
depth of the batten and not kick up the edge tiles or slates. This will
result in some batten ends being unsupported, unless there is a board
that is set between the rafters, or a valley batten to which to fix
them. The end of every batten should be supported by being nailed to a
timber support. In many instances the timber support boards, if wide
enough, will serve as a suitable support.
The alternative method of mitre-cutting the end of the
batten to the side of the valley batten, and then tosh-nailing up
through thin edge of the tile batten into the valley batten, is not
discouraged, but is clearly not as secure. Nailing through the thin edge
of the batten so close to the end grain of the batten will inevitably
split the batten when using a standard batten nail. This method of
securing the ends of the battens also alters the detailing of the
underlay.
Underlay
If there are no support boards under
the valley trough units the underlay will sag between the rafters. It
will only come into contact with the valley trough units where the
underlay passes over a rafter or down the valley rafter. If there is no
valley rafter, as with trussed rafter roofs, the expansion and
contraction of the valley trough units will eventually wear through the
underlay on the edges of the timbers. If water on the roof underlay is
allowed to drain under the valley it can drain through the holes worn in
the underlay.
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Underlay that is laid on a relatively smooth
support board is less likely to wear through as the movement takes place
over a much greater surface area. Similarly, bituminous underlay can
become adhered to the underside of the valley trough after periods of
hot weather.
The contraction of the GRP in cold weather can tear the
underlay apart at the laps in the valley trough units. It is, therefore,
ideal if the underlay under the valley is not bituminous and is laid
over the valley battens along with the main roof slope underlay. This
will prevent water on the main roof slope underlay from draining under
the valley. A 10mm gap is needed between the end of the tile battens and
the side of the valley batten. This will encourage water on the main
roof slope underlay to drain down the side of the valley batten. This
makes the nailing of the battens into the valley batten impossible.
Valley trough profiles
There are three generic profiles of GRP valley trough, not including the
proprietary dry valley designs. These are troughs that need a valley
batten to support the outer edges, those that do not, those designed for
interlocking tiles with mortar, and those designed for double lap slates
with no mortar.
There are also two widths of trough. It is not clear
when, or why, you would choose one design over another. The wider units
provide a wider clear open channel down the centre, and in some
instances, larger corrugations to channel any water that may get through
the mortar bedding. It is also recognised that troughs that finish on
the top of a valley batten are more weather resistant at lower rafter
pitches than those that finish at rafter level and do not need a valley
batten to support the edge.
The recommendation states that units that do not need a
valley batten are designed for used with rigid sarking. Where a counter
batten is used, I see no reason why valley trough units that need a
valley batten should not be used with rigid sarking applications. It is
also not clear as to which units are used for plain tiles. While they
are double lapped like natural slates, the thickness of the tiles at
approximately 13mm is large enough to allow insects into the batten
cavity. Therefore, it would be better to mortar bed plain tiles at a
valley.
Conclusion
The suggestion that no support or
partial support, with 6mm sheets of ply-wood, below GRP valley trough
units is acceptable, is less than helpful as they will be liable to fail
in the long term. Full support of the valley trough units using a 19mm
timber, or a 15mm plywood support board, set between the rafters and
wider than the valley, with a non bitumen underlay under the valley, is
the only safe option.
Tips
- The end 50mm of all battens should be
supported and fixed to the valley support board
- The underlay under the valley should
ideally not be bituminous
- Water on the main roof slope underlay
should not be allowed to drain under a valley by lapping it over the
valley battens
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Compiled by Chris Thomas, The Tiled
Roofing Consultancy, 2 Ridlands Grove, Limpsfield Chart, Oxted, Surrey,
RH8 0ST, tel 01883 724774 |
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